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Copied over from FB:

From my housemate; just saw it when I got to work. Oddly, the rainbow paint job and the household queerness quotient are pretty orthogonal. I'm waiting for more detail from G so we can determine what kind of report we can or want to file. Unsurprisingly, I'm both angry and exasperated.

Some ass hole just knocked on my front door to call me a "fucking faggot" because of our brightly colored house.
I hate stupid people


I told him and his minions to get the fuck off my yard and slammed the door in his face and he ran off screaming "faggot" so now I want to plant a sign in my yard but what do I write on it?

Me: Could you write down descriptions of them, and the incident? I would seriously consider filing a report, if you don't want to.

Three early twenties men short brown hair. The speaking one had a freshly broken nose and about 5'10". Can a report be filed when they did nothing physical and left promptly?

Me: I at least want to talk to The Center and make sure it gets recorded with whomever is recording such incidents for the queer community. They can probably advise whether it's something that should be filed with the police. I suspect so, in case there's a repeat occurence or other harassment.

Date: 2012-02-26 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alicephilippa.livejournal.com
I'm not surprised you are angry. Just what is it with folks? Grrr.

Date: 2012-02-26 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Seriously.

This is what I said to one of my partners about how I'm feeling right now (and I'm sure G's got much more intense feelings, it's just my house, he's the one who had to deal with it face to face):

me: So-so. Irked that my day is going to be hijacked by wondering how worried I should be about this shit. And all the surrounding thoughts, like not being willing to be intimidated, and political elements of decisions to react, etc.

Date: 2012-02-26 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alicephilippa.livejournal.com
There are days when I really would like to line the bigots up against the wall and shoot them. Sadly it is illegal though.

It can be difficult because of all the ramifications just which are the right battles to choose to fight. This one though is one that should, in my view, be reported.

Date: 2012-02-26 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
It can be difficult because of all the ramifications just which are the right battles to choose to fight. This one though is one that should, in my view, be reported.

*nod* My thoughts too. We'll be reporting it as soon as I get home to be moral support on dealing with the cops (G's had very bad/homophobic experiences with them)

Date: 2012-02-26 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
1. That SUCKS.

2. Someone showed up on your property (even if you are renters) without your permission to verbally harass with hate speech in a way that could be construed as threatening? TOTALLY reportable and totally should be _if_ you feel safe reporting it, which I hate is even a consideration.

God, I'm sorry.

Date: 2012-02-26 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
It does indeed suck. I'm angry that these fucknuggets have enough power to throw our entire household's mood at least for the day, let alone some of the longer-term threads of concern it'll leave behind.

We're in about an ideal position to report. We're a household of very out activisty-types, I own the property, I'm queer, G's queer, and it was directed at him (personally) and at me (as owner of the rainbow house in question). The property is fenced; the assholes in question had to intentionally open the gate and come onto our property. We're in a moderately rough neighborhood, but generally well-liked by our neighbors in all our queer hippy weirdness.

As far as repercussions, I'm not overwhelmingly concerned that reporting will increase the likelihood, but I'm willing to take the risk.

As I said to Chad:
I'm mildly concerned about potential costs and hassles of vandalism, much less about risk of actual physical confrontation -- any combination of people in the household aren't who you want to face in a fight. (it's like a multi-gender multi-orientation bear convention around here).

Thanks for listening, and understanding why this is a big deal.

Date: 2012-02-26 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofoghorn.livejournal.com
Wow, that's awful. I'm sorry that happened to your and your housemate. I agree that reporting the incident to officially document it in case of future problems seems wise.

Date: 2012-02-26 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Yup. Document, document, document.

We'll be doing so as soon as I get home.

Thanks for the support!
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Date: 2012-02-26 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
*hug* Thanks!

Date: 2012-02-26 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just thought I'd speak up
I'm G who had the skin head yell at me.
What really pisses me off is that it has stuck with me. This kid did not know I'm gay. He saw rainbow and wanted to express his hate at who ever he could. To impress his low life friends or remind himself that, while he looks a bit to long in the showers, he's not gay. And I got caught in the cross fire of his hate. And that his randomly placed hate reminds me of all the times the hate was directed at me because of me. It makes me angry. Not at the skin head but angry that I still can be shaken like I was ten years ago. And now I'm stuck remembering that fear.
I'm glad I live with and have such great friends to remind me not to fear and that I can have and do stand up for myself.

Love to all
G

Date: 2012-02-26 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
And that his randomly placed hate reminds me of all the times the hate was directed at me because of me. It makes me angry. Not at the skin head but angry that I still can be shaken like I was ten years ago. And now I'm stuck remembering that fear.

*nod* Exactly.

Date: 2012-02-28 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loreeley.livejournal.com
That's why ignorance is so dangerous, people who act this way cannot think logically and consider some others as equal human beings. They flip out and act agressively and irrationally. And because this craziness is dangerous at times, one's first reaction is to be fearfull. People who act this way are just scum!!!

I'm sorry you had to experience this. And all because of a colourful house? Crazy crazy crazy.

Date: 2012-02-26 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wldrose.livejournal.com
Im sorry this so sucks and creates a sense of violation IN YOUR SPACE

Date: 2012-02-26 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Thanks; it definitely feels very invasive, and our home is normally such a safe space for queerness that it's quite jolting.

Date: 2012-02-27 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daphne24.livejournal.com
Been largely off the grid the past few days so I missed this. Commenting here to join the chorus of "that sucks." I'm so sorry. I simply have no idea why someone would find such behavior acceptable.

Date: 2012-02-27 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Thanks -- one of the things we've been laughing about is that the asshole who was doing the actual speaking had a freshly broken nose. Very freshly. Like still bleeding a bit and bruising hadn't spread, according to G. So apparently they make a habit of pissing people off (and failing to duck).

Date: 2012-02-27 12:23 am (UTC)
ext_14676: (Straight not narrow)
From: [identity profile] bkwrrm-tx.livejournal.com
Holy crap!

I... I have no words. I'm just glad that no-one was injured. Hopefully the police will take this seriously. :-(

Date: 2012-02-27 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Thanks! I was really pleasantly surprised, actually. All three members of the police dept that I interacted with handled it appropriately and sensitively. Go them! Yay for social progress!

Date: 2012-02-27 01:56 am (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
Just wanted to add my sympathy and support here.

Date: 2012-02-27 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Thanks, much appreciated. I think we're all doing better now that we're past the reporting part.
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Date: 2012-02-27 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Thanks! Share a laugh with us at their expense -- one of the things we've been laughing about is that the asshole who was doing the actual speaking had a freshly broken nose. Very freshly. Like still bleeding a bit and bruising hadn't spread, according to G. So apparently they make a habit of pissing people off (and failing to duck).

Date: 2012-02-27 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunatickle.livejournal.com
First of all, thanks for teaching me a new word (orthogonal!). I hate that this happened. Way to hang in there and support each other like the highly adaptive freaky geeky kinky queer family you are, way to take back your power.
You are right to see it as a probably empty implied threat. You make a lotta sense that your household is no trifle to fuck with, but keep looking after one another and buddy it up. Part of the "big deal" is that coming inside your fence pops your conceptual safety bubble. You feel targeted and you know you're on the neighborhood's radar more than you thought.
Stay safe and keep your head up. Fuck those assholes.

Date: 2012-02-27 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmuppet.livejournal.com
Orthogonal is such an excellent word! Love it!
(my favorite use is that my bisexuality and my polyamory are orthogonal to each other)

Way to hang in there and support each other like the highly adaptive freaky geeky kinky queer family you are, way to take back your power.

Indeed! Go, us!

Part of the "big deal" is that coming inside your fence pops your conceptual safety bubble. You feel targeted and you know you're on the neighborhood's radar more than you thought.

*nod* It was all very weird. I have to admit I feel somewhat safer because we'd never seen them before. This doesn't seem like a nearby neighbor who has it out for us or anything, so I'm hoping it won't recur.

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